@@tonyclements1147 Mar-Vell is Mar-Vell of the Kree. Billy Batson is the one and only Capt. Marvel and has been for decades before Mar-Vell even existed!!! God save us from lawyers!
When i thought than Captain Marvel's design could'nt became more progstereotypical. And no, Giving America Chavez another girlfriend doesn't make her a compelling character.
That doesn't make sense. America has no identity for her own other than being a psycho mcguffin in Doc Strange 2-a strange case she should introduce Andrew and Tobey Spidies in the MCU Earth-616 for No-Way based on concept art.
It’s funny you say that, there was actually an Interview where Deniz Camp apparently admitted to having a weed addiction. He uses it to “help” with his writing deeming it a “Weed strength” or something like that, which if that’s true, that would definitely explain his writing quality being so inconsistent/ bad.
And it's addictive too (It's not like narcotic). As well as damaging the learning centers of the human brain. It's why kids are discouraged from taking it, smoking it can make them stupid.
@@SlitheringpeanutYou've been watching too much reefer madness dude. It's not addictive at all. I've done just about every drug that can be done and I used to be someone who smoked pot all day long and I did that for years and I quit overnight without even so much as a belly ache. When you come off of opiates for instance It's like the worst anxiety attack and the worst flu and the worst stomach cramps and the worst diarrhea you've ever had all at once and that can last for a month. That's what a physically addictive drug can do. I have a relative who's a gambling addict who will get physical shakes when they can't get their fix. So their psychological addiction was infinitely worse than anything I have ever felt coming off of pot or even meth. Pot does make one one slower mentally and that's for sure. But when I quit that was gone in about 3 days. After all of my drug use I had two IQ tests and scored virtually the same thing I did as a kid before I did anything. But go ahead and believe everything the government tells you.
smoking it when you're young probably makes you less likely to bother learning anything, I know for a fact I wouldn't have bothered if I was on it at school lol
I got tired of DC reboots a long time ago but Marvel needs to reboot now. Even if it’s just to erase the last ten years or so including this current Ultimate line.
The multiverse is a waste of time. Writing about different versions of characters you've already seen a thousand times. The reason they are out of ideals for the most popular characters is because they dont explore anybody new.
@Vittorio-xl4dv the MCU didn't have to do the multiverse. They could have left that concept alone for DC. But typical Marvel always wanna be the first for everything so people can say DC copies them. When the truth is that the multiverse was introduced by The Flash and has been a staple of DC for the longest. But now people think the multiverse is something from Spider-man. Freaking ridiculous.
Issue 1 showed that there was Carol Danvers but she blew herself up after she lost control of her powers. It’s also revealed that she was one of the heroes who received the boxes created by Tony and Doom.
There is only one Captain Marvel and unfortunately he was already dead when I found out he existed, do you recommend any comics to get to know the best of the original Captain Marvel?
Try the Ultimate galactus trilogy if you like mar vell he is a pretty good version of the character in those stories especially I the last book where he and iron man fight a cosmic horror silver surfer copy.
I feel like America Chavez is just Deniz camps way of saying he's not writing an America hating book. "Hey I don't hate America. My book is about how awesome America(whispers Chavez) is. Yeah America (Chavez) is amazing. America(Chavez) is absolutely phenomenal in the future. Yeah yeah see see I don't hate America(Chavez)"
While I can understand that comic book companies may want to introduce diversity and acceptance so that this could be fostered unto younger generations, there are a couple of things to keep in mind: 1) Younger generations are not reading comics- at least not floppies anyway- they're into tech and gizmos like Ipads and Kindle and all of that stuff; 2) Many of these writers are not diverse themselves, they are not gay or lesbian, and they don't have any background or experience in romance writing. As a result, the writing really feels forced and artificial; and 3) The older generations who are still reading comics don't appreciate having the characters they grew up reading like Alan Scott, Tim Drake, Harley Quinn or Pamela Isley being retconned into a bi- gay or lesbian characters. Like I remember reading GL during Underworld Unleashed with Alan Scott stating that he loved his wife Molly so much that he would go through Hell for her. And with but a snap of an editorial mandate, all of that is just supposed to go away.
This new Ultimate Universe is so pathetic. Just Ultimate Spider-man is ok,everything else is a waste of time. America Chavez sucks no matter which the universe she are. Modern Marvel disappoint me every new week I feel that the company just refuse make heroes great again.
@@EvandroACruz You’re talking about them as if you’ve read them, I’m giving you enough credit that you’re not just watching ragebait videos and getting mad alongside them.
If I was to write for marvel and I was force to write the women heroes as lesbians anytime their near each other. I would no matter what, have deadpool come in off panel with a camcorder saying "oh nice....nice angle right there...this is gonna sell well on OnlydeadpoolFans!" lol. Just to pissed off the editors and the people on Twitter who never buys the books but defend them anyways.
I put out more smoke on a daily basis than California during burn season. I couldn’t smoke enough weed to make any of this shit enjoyable. Dropped it after issue 6 and Spider-Man too. No interest in the Ultimate line at all.
Seriously, I don't understand the hype with the New Ultimate because The Ultimates are doing exactly the same thing they do in the Original universe... The cope is hard.
In the interview of where Deniz admitted to his weed addiction, he says that he’s so addicted that he has “Weed Strength” Classification system and “Can’t move”, that would definitely explain his writing quality and why it’s so inconsistent/Bad. JDA Talks Comics did a video about it.
I'll be straight, I pirate all my comicbooks. And there's 5 levels: -Level 5 or top level: Great comics I follow every month and that will buy in trade paperbacks or hardcover volumes -Level 4: Comics I usually read and may buy physically if in a good sale -Level 3: Comics that I might read from time to time, but not often and wouldn't buy physically. -Level 2: Comics I don't follow but might download from time to time out of curiosity. -Level 1: Comics I don't even bother to download, that I regret spending any amount of data loading their thumbnail in the website. Ultimates belongs here.
When Marvel created the original Ultimate line in 2000, they had a functioning main line and it was a way of getting new readers involved minus 40 years of continuity. I don't know what the point of this new Ultimate line is ("But Peter Parker's married!" Well shiver me timbers! Like that couldn't be easily done in the main line with someone competent in charge), and they don't have more than 1 decent main line book that currently works (maybe 2 depending on how Joe Kelly gets on with ASM long term if Nick Lowe can get out of his way). In other words, they don't have the luxury of a separate equally awful Ultimate continuity. Get the house in order first.
Honestly, they should’ve just retcon a lot of the bad events that took place in the original Ultimate universe And found competent and passionate writers to carry on that line of books
1:31 I completely agree with this, especially if you use it medicinally as some people I know who have it prescribed by their neurologist, but if you’re smoking to get ideas and those ideas suck, I don’t want to know what SOBER ideas Deniz Camp would have😂
I think there’s a reason for this, I think very soon they’re going to start asking questions as to how everyone is gay now, and then it leads to an investigation that there’s a villain doing this to put an end to the human race. I think that’s what’s happening here.
If somebody need's to get baked just to be creative. Well That person is not actually creative. Their just a pothead throwing darts at a glass window hoping something sticks. Yeah I didn't write my Novel that way. I think I'll keep my mental longevity. It's actually more valuable than getting high all the time.
ONE way or the other they are gonna MAKE sure we NEVERRRRRRR forget America Chavez it is Literrly like Ms samanath said.. they don't Lose they Just will get shifted to another book smh
This is why I stopped buying any new comic book from current day and just read old comics. Right now I'm Reading The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones series
The Ultimates should be branded as Ultimate Nightmare like the old series. Because the ideas here are awful fanfic fueled by the devil's lettuce as you said.
I wanna see Deniz Camp on Batman. He'll make the Tom King run look like Jim Lee's Hush. Prepare for lesbian catwoman getting more kitty box than you expected...
@@maxmazzotti6651 well ultimate x-men has completley lost the plot in regards to mutants so i expect the wolverine comic to introduce some actual mutants, probably some russian ones like colossus and ursa major
I was trying to collect the full line of the new Ultimate Universe, but I gave up on The Ultimates after issue #2. I usually try to give a series until at least the end of the first story arc, but this one has been so bad almost from the beginning. Now the only Ultimate book I still have on my pull list is Ultimate Spider-Man. Admittedly, I am looking forward to Ultimate Wolverine today, though.
Glad I just read the first 6 issues of Ultimate Spider-man and then stopped 'cause I have this gut feeling that this is definitely gonna go back to woke crap.
How many bad writers are just doing drugs to come up with random stuff in their bad comics? Kelly Thompson told me in an interview that the way she came up with the dumb alien cats that shot out poisonous farts from their butts in captain marvel #27 was something she came up with while doing drugs. These comics now days are constantly filled with a lot of “LOL so random” humor. I’m so sick of it.
I think this is one of the most horrid runs of all time, but what's even more horrid is that we're the minority. People are eating this stuff up for some reason. Go on the league of geeks and leave a negative review for one of these books. You'll get swarmed just like Indy with the starving people in The Temple of Doom. All I see is praise for his world building, but from what I see he just sprayed in the insulation for a house that was framed by someone who actually knew what they were doing. Crazy that the book is actually selling as well. This run will only get worse as everyone is just glazing Deniz Camp. Lastly, he also possesses every negative stereotype of people that smoke weed and ruins it for the people that don't abuse it. He's like a cheech and chong look alike. People like Deniz are the reason I lie to people about smoking weed. I really dislike this clown.
The 'Wacky Tabacky' is never a good idea. I know it makes people feel good, but it destroys your ambition, so you don't want to improve which as a writer and artist is just bad. You can always get better, but toking up ends that. Worse, it also inhibits the learning centers of the brain, hence why they don't want school kids doing it, literally makes them stupid. Now unlike the harder stuff, the damage is not permanent and getting off it isn't as hard. But it's still a bad idea as a creative. That said, this is just an FYI, it's your life to live, I cannot and will not judge.
Wait, so we got to a point where people openly boast and brag on social media about how high they get? Ok then. If that rumor turns out to be true, then I think it wouldn't be Bat-man anymore. It would be Baked-man instead.
As potheads goes, he isn't on level of bigot rogen. In main universe Chavez was always a lesbian with a backstory that Marvel refused 2 expand upon, than when the Dr Strange 2 came out they retconned her backstory in a boring 1. Either not surprising that they made Captain karen into a lesbian. Heck in main universe they really want 2 make her into 1 as well. Carol Danvers was a better character when she was Ms Marvel.
I'm not understanding the problem with having Capt. Marvel be a lesbian is because, isn't this a completely different captain marvel? They do seem very overpowered, though the guardians of the galaxy. And to comment about his complaints about Hawkeye, it's more the way the writer had hawkeye and cap's interaction be so cliche, and not have cap give any kind of speech back that i have a problem with.
I have a question for anyone on here. How would you write a proper Superman comic run ? And also, do you prefer? Lana as a friend who has an Unrequited crush on Clark or a girlfriend ?
I would like to do a slice of life of Clark being The Hero of Heroes, saving people, working as a journalist and being incredibly hopeful... Maybe it wouldn't be an amazing run but I just want something Wholesome with superman.
A Marvel comic story or plot not involving qu33r or girl power characters? Rare in 2025. The days in which most Marvel comics were mostly for all audiences are long gone, as well as the millions of fans who bought those comics. They don't waste their hard-earned money on Marvel's 2025 garbage comics.
This issue led to me finally dropping this from my LCS pull list. I think the peak issue so far for me was #4. I was holding out hope for something cool to happen, but this issue was too much. It sucks that this crap writing is in the same universe as Ultimate Spider-man…
Hey Critical...I know I'm just a sub but would love a breakdown vid of which writers are super woke and perhaps to avoid...all in your opinion of course. I just hate the bait and switch and would rather give my $ to solid writers.
I thought the first issue was decent but after that it became garbage. None of these remixes of the characters are interesting in my opinion. America Chavez isn't even a character you didn't know you needed. She is a character that never needs to show up again ever shes unfixable. She hulk and that island is stupid and has the tact of a flash bang. He made native American hawkeye lame. Thor hasn't done shit. I think hulk is pretty cool and the guardians designs are cool but that cant save this. Hickman should be writing this not denis camp. It sucks
Ultimate universe has really gone flacid Ultimates suck and I can't understand the people that I see online going crazy for it It's the same crappy writing that Steve Orlando does on 2099(destroying a universe very dear to me), Introducing lame characters every issue in hopes of getting some royalties in the future But I do think that Ultimate Wolverine will be the best book in this universe I have faith in Chris Condon
i gotta disagree with you on this one mostly because ultimate's has been super interesting so far and that whole dark future with the maker winning is actually super interesting in my opinion.
@ technically this universe was made by the maker so of course it was going to be a dark future with no hope, but there’s still hope because are heroes are trying to take down the maker and all of his minions which I think is so cool in my opinion.
America Chavez is a lesbian in Marvel, so what is the big deal with her being a lesbian. Also are you telling me that the Dr. Doom issue wasn't good? That was a great issue. Some where you have gone from Thinking Critical where you would talk critically about comics to a ragebait comic scream culture warrior channel. I hope you go back to reading an reviewing comics you like instead of hate reading for fake outrage.
I mean they do have recommendations every week. Gotta cover something over the other 6 days lol. Gotta discuss the good and the bad. I will agree there is some bias going on occasionally but we all are guilty of that.
He was mainly talking about Captain marvel not Chavez, he never said characters being lesbian was the problem, he was talking about establish female characters being made into lesbians in the past few years, even some male characters had this happen to them such as Iceman or Tim Drake, real life gay or bisexual individuals have complained about this does pandering as well. The writers and most people who praise this don't even have a hint of critical thinking to be honest.
@@eagle162 Marvel Comics's greatest blunder on this aspect (towards the crowd that they insist they're doing all of this for) was taking established bisexual characters and making them not consider any of their relationships with the opposite gender legitimate compared to those thry had with the same gender. It's almost like the very concept of bisexuality isn't real to those writers.
@ I know he has to cover things. I just have been watching this content for along time, and I feel he like the Ragebait. It seems like he has no passion for it and I wish he would go back to that. He once did a review of that initial X-Factor run when Warren became Death and he seemed so pumped. I get content needs to be made, it kind of seems he is getting mad at comics for people not reading comics that want him to get mad. I just wish he would follow his passion. Then again maybe he likes being mad.
@ I think it’s more a matter of many of the titles that he and everyone else wants to like are all pretty bad. Asm is awful, X-men is awful, Batman is awful, essentially everything at marvel is awful. Eventually you get angry. But being a comic book channel he still has to read the shit. It’s part of the job. There’s certainly some things that could make the coverage less anger driven but when you’re having to read the same bad books that seem to only get worse all the time it’s gonna get like this. If you don’t want to hear Wes get mad don’t click on anything but recommends on Saturday cause everything else pretty bad in the mainstream scene.
I really think people just are over reacting to the writing because of how they perceive this book. Like not a single thing you’re complaining about is bad in stories. Setting up these characters to be able to come back when needed, very normal storytelling trope. A character being lesbian, I can’t imagine why anyone would care. It really makes me think a lot of people just should stop reading comics because they aren’t going to like anything new or creative anyways.
Did you literally not listen to anything that was said. Nobody said characters being lesbians is bad it's just tired at this point, regarding how it's handled, just like they were actual bi people complaining how Tim Drake was made to be bisexual. A lot of people have stopped reading comic books because they have gotten terrible, why do you think other forms of media have taken over, with the ones that remain want the media to get better.
Most likely will, nothing was homophobic here, comic books are dying medium at least the mainstream ones are, things are not going to get better unless criticism is actually listened to.
America Chavez is the dumbest character in all of marvel comics and yet she gets pushed down everyone’s throat
This version of the Ultimates should have been replaced by a straight Scarlet Witch
The same with Damian Wayne at DC and both of them are financial flops for their companies.
She sucks in every universe.
@@Blackmanta-d5ohe only works when paired with specific people, bit at least he's not as insufferable as America Chavez
Same with Miles
There’s only ever been one Captain Marvel: his name is Billy Batson.
Amen
I have to disagree..Billy and Mar-Vell.
@@tonyclements1147 Mar-Vell is Mar-Vell of the Kree. Billy Batson is the one and only Capt. Marvel and has been for decades before Mar-Vell even existed!!! God save us from lawyers!
@@LSOK38 mar-vell still cool
@@LSOK38 Mar-Vell is captain marvel....even when billy batson was captain marvel everyone knew him as shazam only.
When i thought than Captain Marvel's design could'nt became more progstereotypical.
And no, Giving America Chavez another girlfriend doesn't make her a compelling character.
But according to Deniz Camp it makes her the greatest hero in the multiverse apparently
That doesn't make sense. America has no identity for her own other than being a psycho mcguffin in Doc Strange 2-a strange case she should introduce Andrew and Tobey Spidies in the MCU Earth-616 for No-Way based on concept art.
@mangaloveranix8412 Thats the thing, without a compelling character by herself it doesn't matter how much Girlfriends she has.
Deniz Camp is that kid who smoked a clove cigarette and then acted like he was tripping out.
It’s funny you say that, there was actually an Interview where Deniz Camp apparently admitted to having a weed addiction.
He uses it to “help” with his writing deeming it a “Weed strength” or something like that, which if that’s true, that would definitely explain his writing quality being so inconsistent/ bad.
Deniz Camp is literally Towlie in South Park writing A Million Little Fibers.
Marvel is broken and can never be fixed
Weed is a double edged sword, gotta fight that laziness tendency at every turn if you want to do something productive.
And it's addictive too (It's not like narcotic). As well as damaging the learning centers of the human brain. It's why kids are discouraged from taking it, smoking it can make them stupid.
@@SlitheringpeanutYou've been watching too much reefer madness dude. It's not addictive at all. I've done just about every drug that can be done and I used to be someone who smoked pot all day long and I did that for years and I quit overnight without even so much as a belly ache.
When you come off of opiates for instance It's like the worst anxiety attack and the worst flu and the worst stomach cramps and the worst diarrhea you've ever had all at once and that can last for a month. That's what a physically addictive drug can do.
I have a relative who's a gambling addict who will get physical shakes when they can't get their fix. So their psychological addiction was infinitely worse than anything I have ever felt coming off of pot or even meth.
Pot does make one one slower mentally and that's for sure. But when I quit that was gone in about 3 days. After all of my drug use I had two IQ tests and scored virtually the same thing I did as a kid before I did anything.
But go ahead and believe everything the government tells you.
@@SlitheringpeanutGo ahead and believe everything the government tells you dude.
smoking it when you're young probably makes you less likely to bother learning anything, I know for a fact I wouldn't have bothered if I was on it at school lol
Deniz is so lazy he created a cosmic powered team of Mary Sues
What does that even mean in this context?
@@andrewvideogames that you can't read
I don’t think I can be even more apathetic about Marvel comics.
Modern Marvel it's so pathetic.
oathetic
Different universe, same crap.
As a stoner that hates stereotypical stoners I feel your frustration
I got tired of DC reboots a long time ago but Marvel needs to reboot now. Even if it’s just to erase the last ten years or so including this current Ultimate line.
Marvel more than anyone else is in desperate need of a reboot.
The multiverse is a waste of time. Writing about different versions of characters you've already seen a thousand times. The reason they are out of ideals for the most popular characters is because they dont explore anybody new.
PERFECT !! 👍
@Vittorio-xl4dv the multiverse is literally a big billboard screaming that all our other characters sucks.
@@mr.dccomics9018 Marvel multiverse Is a wrong concept in a wrong Place ... The right house for the Multiverse Is DC comics
@Vittorio-xl4dv the MCU didn't have to do the multiverse. They could have left that concept alone for DC. But typical Marvel always wanna be the first for everything so people can say DC copies them. When the truth is that the multiverse was introduced by The Flash and has been a staple of DC for the longest. But now people think the multiverse is something from Spider-man. Freaking ridiculous.
That blue chick is Captain Marvel? I thought I was looking at an image of Mystique making out with Kitty Pryde.
Issue 1 showed that there was Carol Danvers but she blew herself up after she lost control of her powers.
It’s also revealed that she was one of the heroes who received the boxes created by Tony and Doom.
@ - So is this Cap Mar-Vell or someone else, altogether?
I thought the same thing.
Seems to be a new character in the role like the other Guardians, except Cosmo.
7:25 Does She-Hulk have a mustache or is it just me?
Nah that’s the new J. Jonah Jameson!
I blame editorial. There are good writers out there, they're just not willing to pay them.
so in the 61st century, lesbians still have the same stupid hairstyle?
That's really the understandable complaint here.
Some writers struggle with substance abuse. And some just don’t take the craft seriously. Deniz Camp isn’t exactly David Foster Wallace.
There is only one Captain Marvel and unfortunately he was already dead when I found out he existed, do you recommend any comics to get to know the best of the original Captain Marvel?
probably "Captain Marvel by Jim Starlin: The Complete Collection", 2016. Amazon has it on Kindle, actual physical copy is harder to find.
Silver Surfer #63. When the Surfer is trapped in the land of the dead, Captain Marvel comes to his aid. Its a GREAT story.
Try the Ultimate galactus trilogy if you like mar vell he is a pretty good version of the character in those stories especially I the last book where he and iron man fight a cosmic horror silver surfer copy.
I miss Captain Mar-vell
I feel like America Chavez is just Deniz camps way of saying he's not writing an America hating book.
"Hey I don't hate America. My book is about how awesome America(whispers Chavez) is. Yeah America (Chavez) is amazing. America(Chavez) is absolutely phenomenal in the future. Yeah yeah see see I don't hate America(Chavez)"
Not everyone has to be gay!
Relax, there’s plenty of straight characters out there for you
While I can understand that comic book companies may want to introduce diversity and acceptance so that this could be fostered unto younger generations, there are a couple of things to keep in mind:
1) Younger generations are not reading comics- at least not floppies anyway- they're into tech and gizmos like Ipads and Kindle and all of that stuff;
2) Many of these writers are not diverse themselves, they are not gay or lesbian, and they don't have any background or experience in romance writing. As a result, the writing really feels forced and artificial; and
3) The older generations who are still reading comics don't appreciate having the characters they grew up reading like Alan Scott, Tim Drake, Harley Quinn or Pamela Isley being retconned into a bi- gay or lesbian characters. Like I remember reading GL during Underworld Unleashed with Alan Scott stating that he loved his wife Molly so much that he would go through Hell for her. And with but a snap of an editorial mandate, all of that is just supposed to go away.
I ❤ ur Comment and Agree. 🙂
This new Ultimate Universe is so pathetic. Just Ultimate Spider-man is ok,everything else is a waste of time. America Chavez sucks no matter which the universe she are. Modern Marvel disappoint me every new week I feel that the company just refuse make heroes great again.
The fact that they shoved her into the MCU in Dr. Strange 2 is gonna make things worse for sure
Then stop buying it dude, what’re you doing?
@ And who told you that I'm buying this shit? I read by scans only and I dropped after the second issue.
@@EvandroACruz You’re talking about them as if you’ve read them, I’m giving you enough credit that you’re not just watching ragebait videos and getting mad alongside them.
@@EvandroACruz You reading all the ultimate books even though you don’t enjoy it?
the image at 7:30 might be a Mystery Science Theatre comment by the artist.
If I was to write for marvel and I was force to write the women heroes as lesbians anytime their near each other. I would no matter what, have deadpool come in off panel with a camcorder saying "oh nice....nice angle right there...this is gonna sell well on OnlydeadpoolFans!" lol. Just to pissed off the editors and the people on Twitter who never buys the books but defend them anyways.
Watcher: "Hey look! You're going to die in the future!" Heroes: "So? We got plot armor."
Marvel has wasted so much time amd money astroturfing characters nobody cares about.
I put out more smoke on a daily basis than California during burn season. I couldn’t smoke enough weed to make any of this shit enjoyable. Dropped it after issue 6 and Spider-Man too. No interest in the Ultimate line at all.
Seriously, I don't understand the hype with the New Ultimate because The Ultimates are doing exactly the same thing they do in the Original universe... The cope is hard.
Original Ultimate universe? Or original marvel 616 universe? Either way, this iteration is much different in terms of their goals
Always find it funny that people always say something about people that smoke weed but people can be fall down drunks and be a okay cool hip in today
In the interview of where Deniz admitted to his weed addiction, he says that he’s so addicted that he has “Weed Strength” Classification system and “Can’t move”, that would definitely explain his writing quality and why it’s so inconsistent/Bad.
JDA Talks Comics did a video about it.
A parody couldnt be more crazy than this. What are they doing at Marvel??
I'll be straight, I pirate all my comicbooks. And there's 5 levels:
-Level 5 or top level: Great comics I follow every month and that will buy in trade paperbacks or hardcover volumes
-Level 4: Comics I usually read and may buy physically if in a good sale
-Level 3: Comics that I might read from time to time, but not often and wouldn't buy physically.
-Level 2: Comics I don't follow but might download from time to time out of curiosity.
-Level 1: Comics I don't even bother to download, that I regret spending any amount of data loading their thumbnail in the website. Ultimates belongs here.
7:21 - thats some nice art.
When Marvel created the original Ultimate line in 2000, they had a functioning main line and it was a way of getting new readers involved minus 40 years of continuity. I don't know what the point of this new Ultimate line is ("But Peter Parker's married!" Well shiver me timbers! Like that couldn't be easily done in the main line with someone competent in charge), and they don't have more than 1 decent main line book that currently works (maybe 2 depending on how Joe Kelly gets on with ASM long term if Nick Lowe can get out of his way). In other words, they don't have the luxury of a separate equally awful Ultimate continuity. Get the house in order first.
Honestly, they should’ve just retcon a lot of the bad events that took place in the original Ultimate universe And found competent and passionate writers to carry on that line of books
1:31 I completely agree with this, especially if you use it medicinally as some people I know who have it prescribed by their neurologist, but if you’re smoking to get ideas and those ideas suck, I don’t want to know what SOBER ideas Deniz Camp would have😂
I think there’s a reason for this, I think very soon they’re going to start asking questions as to how everyone is gay now, and then it leads to an investigation that there’s a villain doing this to put an end to the human race. I think that’s what’s happening here.
If somebody need's to get baked just to be creative. Well That person is not actually creative. Their just a pothead throwing darts at a glass window hoping something sticks. Yeah I didn't write my Novel that way. I think I'll keep my mental longevity. It's actually more valuable than getting high all the time.
The only flaw in your logic is that some of the greatest music and movie performances were crafted by people under the influence of something.
It is funny how people react like this when writers/authors are stereotypically known to be alcoholics, which is much worse.
@@kalkella8822 The acception is not the rule. But sure let's cherry pick and just think substance abuse is the perfect muse for everyone.
@@misternegative4918 HI I'm an author and I never drink or do drugs. Please to meet you.
ONE way or the other they are gonna MAKE sure we NEVERRRRRRR forget America Chavez it is Literrly like Ms samanath said.. they don't Lose they Just will get shifted to another book smh
Why Marvel, Why!?.
COMICS ARE DEAD
This is why I stopped buying any new comic book from current day and just read old comics. Right now I'm Reading The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones series
The Ultimates should be branded as Ultimate Nightmare like the old series. Because the ideas here are awful fanfic fueled by the devil's lettuce as you said.
Bong-boy and the Devil's Cabbage .. that should be his creator owned indie comic.
I wanna see Deniz Camp on Batman. He'll make the Tom King run look like Jim Lee's Hush. Prepare for lesbian catwoman getting more kitty box than you expected...
The true Captain Marvel is Maar’ vel
Ultimate spiderman and black panther know whats up why is it so hard just to follow there lead god damn
Hope Ultimate Wolverine is good. What happened to Xavier and Magneto as well as all the other X-Men in the world
@@maxmazzotti6651 well ultimate x-men has completley lost the plot in regards to mutants so i expect the wolverine comic to introduce some actual mutants, probably some russian ones like colossus and ursa major
I was trying to collect the full line of the new Ultimate Universe, but I gave up on The Ultimates after issue #2. I usually try to give a series until at least the end of the first story arc, but this one has been so bad almost from the beginning. Now the only Ultimate book I still have on my pull list is Ultimate Spider-Man. Admittedly, I am looking forward to Ultimate Wolverine today, though.
Deniz Camp is not the new writer of Batman.... because .... I'm the new writer of Batman. 🤣
Glad I just read the first 6 issues of Ultimate Spider-man and then stopped 'cause I have this gut feeling that this is definitely gonna go back to woke crap.
Where is everyone that was shilling for Ultimate Spiderman? I DON'T SEE YOU
They’re still buying the book.
@@CoreyAdolfiAh, like the cuccs they are
Me.😂
@@Yayofangamer16 Could be because it’s a good book.
It’s the Hillary Clinton Easy Button. 😂😂😂
How many bad writers are just doing drugs to come up with random stuff in their bad comics? Kelly Thompson told me in an interview that the way she came up with the dumb alien cats that shot out poisonous farts from their butts in captain marvel #27 was something she came up with while doing drugs. These comics now days are constantly filled with a lot of “LOL so random” humor. I’m so sick of it.
I think this is one of the most horrid runs of all time, but what's even more horrid is that we're the minority. People are eating this stuff up for some reason. Go on the league of geeks and leave a negative review for one of these books. You'll get swarmed just like Indy with the starving people in The Temple of Doom. All I see is praise for his world building, but from what I see he just sprayed in the insulation for a house that was framed by someone who actually knew what they were doing. Crazy that the book is actually selling as well. This run will only get worse as everyone is just glazing Deniz Camp. Lastly, he also possesses every negative stereotype of people that smoke weed and ruins it for the people that don't abuse it. He's like a cheech and chong look alike. People like Deniz are the reason I lie to people about smoking weed. I really dislike this clown.
Like this is you support fellow potheads!
The 'Wacky Tabacky' is never a good idea. I know it makes people feel good, but it destroys your ambition, so you don't want to improve which as a writer and artist is just bad. You can always get better, but toking up ends that. Worse, it also inhibits the learning centers of the brain, hence why they don't want school kids doing it, literally makes them stupid. Now unlike the harder stuff, the damage is not permanent and getting off it isn't as hard. But it's still a bad idea as a creative. That said, this is just an FYI, it's your life to live, I cannot and will not judge.
Why don’t you just Triple Dog Dare Jim Lee to put Denis Camp on Batman?!
Who is Diaper Neck? 😂
This latest issue is the last for me. When I saw the kiss I was done…such garbage
Nothing at Marvel shocks me anymore. If anything I expect nothing but bland toast. Mixed with some writers with major case of God complex.
Wait, so we got to a point where people openly boast and brag on social media about how high they get? Ok then.
If that rumor turns out to be true, then I think it wouldn't be Bat-man anymore. It would be Baked-man instead.
New villain Unmaker or Khan Makyr?
Doom music intensifies....
That could make a decent book I guess. Doomguy vs the Guardians of the Galaxy.
@@marcelcoetzee7152 So we gonna go to Urdak?
The one issue where the Ultimates go to Hulk Island- I think it's either 4 or 5 was pretty much the worst issue of I've read for 2024.
As potheads goes, he isn't on level of bigot rogen.
In main universe Chavez was always a lesbian with a backstory that Marvel refused 2 expand upon, than when the Dr Strange 2 came out they retconned her backstory in a boring 1.
Either not surprising that they made Captain karen into a lesbian. Heck in main universe they really want 2 make her into 1 as well. Carol Danvers was a better character when she was Ms Marvel.
Man, spider man started of so good
I'm not understanding the problem with having Capt. Marvel be a lesbian is because, isn't this a completely different captain marvel? They do seem very overpowered, though the guardians of the galaxy. And to comment about his complaints about Hawkeye, it's more the way the writer had hawkeye and cap's interaction be so cliche, and not have cap give any kind of speech back that i have a problem with.
This is why I haven't read a new comicbook in years. They just keep rehashing the same lame moments that they swear are shocking the readers.
The one year in nick fury thing was definitely because he read god emperor of dune recently and decided to make nick fury duncan idaho
I have a question for anyone on here. How would you write a proper Superman comic run ? And also, do you prefer? Lana as a friend who has an Unrequited crush on Clark or a girlfriend ?
I like Clark and Lana being friends.
@andresanguianozuniga6798 thank you for replying to my comment. 😉
@@DarthDread-oh2ne Your welcome.
I would like to do a slice of life of Clark being The Hero of Heroes, saving people, working as a journalist and being incredibly hopeful... Maybe it wouldn't be an amazing run but I just want something Wholesome with superman.
Pre-Crisis Lana was more nice than Lois.
A Marvel comic story or plot not involving qu33r or girl power characters? Rare in 2025. The days in which most Marvel comics were mostly for all audiences are long gone, as well as the millions of fans who bought those comics. They don't waste their hard-earned money on Marvel's 2025 garbage comics.
This issue led to me finally dropping this from my LCS pull list. I think the peak issue so far for me was #4. I was holding out hope for something cool to happen, but this issue was too much. It sucks that this crap writing is in the same universe as Ultimate Spider-man…
Making Carol Danvers gay? Daring today aren't we?
Disney/marvel 😘🥰🥰😘🥰😘😘 = My Little Pony universe
Glad I stopped reading at #6
But but Doom,Iron lad and Kang come on man!
Hey Critical...I know I'm just a sub but would love a breakdown vid of which writers are super woke and perhaps to avoid...all in your opinion of course. I just hate the bait and switch and would rather give my $ to solid writers.
I tried one issue, that was it for me! 🗑
I thought the first issue was decent but after that it became garbage. None of these remixes of the characters are interesting in my opinion. America Chavez isn't even a character you didn't know you needed. She is a character that never needs to show up again ever shes unfixable. She hulk and that island is stupid and has the tact of a flash bang. He made native American hawkeye lame. Thor hasn't done shit. I think hulk is pretty cool and the guardians designs are cool but that cant save this. Hickman should be writing this not denis camp. It sucks
I can get better character designs by deliberately giving Stable Diffusion seizures. ;P
Art looks terrible!
Ultimate universe has really gone flacid
Ultimates suck and I can't understand the people that I see online going crazy for it
It's the same crappy writing that Steve Orlando does on 2099(destroying a universe very dear to me), Introducing lame characters every issue in hopes of getting some royalties in the future
But I do think that Ultimate Wolverine will be the best book in this universe
I have faith in Chris Condon
It sad that book like this use to get canceled before 4 issues are now long running series. Glad Stan not here to see this.
@@cicolasnage5684Are you telling me you payed to read it ?
@@cicolasnage5684 you are the guy that shows up at the party and everyone argues that they didn't invite you!
@SusRecordsCEO nope that's never happened to me. Why would you go yo a party your not invited to ? This a hobby of yours ?
i gotta disagree with you on this one mostly because ultimate's has been super interesting so far and that whole dark future with the maker winning is actually super interesting in my opinion.
This new universe sucks. I'm so tired of so many dark and edge versions of classic superheroes.
@ technically this universe was made by the maker so of course it was going to be a dark future with no hope, but there’s still hope because are heroes are trying to take down the maker and all of his minions which I think is so cool in my opinion.
@@EvandroACruz It’s a pretty hopeful book
@ Hopeful where? The Ultimates are all murderer assholes in this universe too. There's nothing hopeful in that shit hole.
@ No it's not. The Ultimates are a bunch of murderous assholes in this universe too.
America Chavez is a lesbian in Marvel, so what is the big deal with her being a lesbian. Also are you telling me that the Dr. Doom issue wasn't good? That was a great issue. Some where you have gone from Thinking Critical where you would talk critically about comics to a ragebait comic scream culture warrior channel. I hope you go back to reading an reviewing comics you like instead of hate reading for fake outrage.
I mean they do have recommendations every week. Gotta cover something over the other 6 days lol. Gotta discuss the good and the bad. I will agree there is some bias going on occasionally but we all are guilty of that.
He was mainly talking about Captain marvel not Chavez, he never said characters being lesbian was the problem, he was talking about establish female characters being made into lesbians in the past few years, even some male characters had this happen to them such as Iceman or Tim Drake, real life gay or bisexual individuals have complained about this does pandering as well. The writers and most people who praise this don't even have a hint of critical thinking to be honest.
@@eagle162 Marvel Comics's greatest blunder on this aspect (towards the crowd that they insist they're doing all of this for) was taking established bisexual characters and making them not consider any of their relationships with the opposite gender legitimate compared to those thry had with the same gender.
It's almost like the very concept of bisexuality isn't real to those writers.
@ I know he has to cover things. I just have been watching this content for along time, and I feel he like the Ragebait. It seems like he has no passion for it and I wish he would go back to that. He once did a review of that initial X-Factor run when Warren became Death and he seemed so pumped. I get content needs to be made, it kind of seems he is getting mad at comics for people not reading comics that want him to get mad. I just wish he would follow his passion. Then again maybe he likes being mad.
@ I think it’s more a matter of many of the titles that he and everyone else wants to like are all pretty bad. Asm is awful, X-men is awful, Batman is awful, essentially everything at marvel is awful. Eventually you get angry. But being a comic book channel he still has to read the shit. It’s part of the job. There’s certainly some things that could make the coverage less anger driven but when you’re having to read the same bad books that seem to only get worse all the time it’s gonna get like this. If you don’t want to hear Wes get mad don’t click on anything but recommends on Saturday cause everything else pretty bad in the mainstream scene.
Lesbians...yay...
Wes, now you know how I feel when you praise the likes of Geoff 'Retcon Punch' Johns and Mark 'Clone Thor' Millar.
I really think people just are over reacting to the writing because of how they perceive this book. Like not a single thing you’re complaining about is bad in stories. Setting up these characters to be able to come back when needed, very normal storytelling trope. A character being lesbian, I can’t imagine why anyone would care. It really makes me think a lot of people just should stop reading comics because they aren’t going to like anything new or creative anyways.
Did you literally not listen to anything that was said. Nobody said characters being lesbians is bad it's just tired at this point, regarding how it's handled, just like they were actual bi people complaining how Tim Drake was made to be bisexual. A lot of people have stopped reading comic books because they have gotten terrible, why do you think other forms of media have taken over, with the ones that remain want the media to get better.
I guarantee the story isn’t gonna end the way u think. Can u just relax with the homophobia ur too old 4 this😭
Most likely will, nothing was homophobic here, comic books are dying medium at least the mainstream ones are, things are not going to get better unless criticism is actually listened to.
As a fellow tangy tobacco taster, I can write better jargon than this 🫢🫢